Been thinking about Suzuya recently, and how he’s also on a joker card. I wonder if that’ll come back into play, and how it might. The first set jokers were Suzuya, Arima, and T-Owl. The multiple allegiances and roles of Takizawa as T-Owl were already clear, and Arima as a V agent has since come to light.
The second set has poor Karren, who sort of had a duel role, very briefly, but was a visual parallel to T-Owl and could have shared his fate if she hadn’t chosen the path she did at the end. Furuta and Kaneki should be pretty obvious.
Which leaves us with Suzuya. Currently, he’s set up as the next Arima Kishou as far as talent goes, which gets more and more interesting the more suspicious and messy Arima’s true nature and origins become. But he’s on par with Arima in terms of age of reaching special class, even if he started in the CCG much later. Both of them have a past as children raised to kill, but in very different settings, with very different sorts of conditioning.
He has a very interesting perspective on the job of being a ghoul investigator, too. He’s said repeatedly that he views it as a job, rather than a moral responsibility, and we’ve seen that play out on both sides of the coin – against Shiro and Kuro, where carrying out his job was “morally wrong” but personally complicated and against Big Madam, where it was “morally right” but personally complicated. The only other person to vocally acknowledge being an investigator as “just a job” was Yoshitoki, saying it to Yoshimura, and pretty clearly talking about the endless game of back and forth they play as puppets of V.
So it’s interesting that Suzuya’s outlook should weirdly mirror that.
He also has an interesting perspective because he’s seen the most brutal the ghoul world has to offer, viscerally and first hand. No one can say that Suzuya Juuzou doesn’t know how evil and sadistic ghouls can be. He knows better than anyone. So if he is to get a glimpse into the depths of the dark heart of the CCG and come away with the conclusion that humans and ghouls are no different, he is almost uniquely in a position to be unchallenged in that claim.
But as far as we know, Suzuya is also free of V’s influence and connections to them, which puts him in an interesting place as the top investigator, especially if shit really hits the fan in terms of V and the Washuu connection there.
He is a proven leader and strategy builder. Despite his unorthodox appearance and eccentric, even childlike personality, he commands a lot of respect. He’s raked in achievement after achievement. His squad is choreographed and disciplined.
Which all makes me wonder, now that unrest is starting to simmer –
Ahhh I literally gasped when I saw this, and I felt some kind of way when I saw it was dedicated to me ;-; <3.
Anyway, I’m very curious about that last little bit (yes, I read it, twice!) about the remote possibility of Juuzou being somehow from the Garden. Wouldn’t that be a thing to behold? It would made some kind of sense, though, and though I actually never considered it, it’s one of those things that I could see being true.
It could also not be true. I don’t think any of us are trusting our guesses any more (and I’ve never been one for speculation anyway). But I would have to say….Juuzou is the type that holds all of his information close to the chest. He doesn’t reveal anything….anything…unless it’s necessary. It’s one of the many interesting and unique aspects of his character. So I am very sure that the presence of a mole in the organization is a piece of information that he’s not bothered to broadcast, but that he also hasn’t forgotten. And I would bet money that he’s not let his team forget it either.
Also, Juuzou’s evolution and maturation as a character has already played into the plot in a few ways, but I’m very interested to see what else comes of it. I can’t really imagine that he’s done being a major player at this point. He’s in this arc, and I feel as though big, important things are going to happen either because of him or around him.
But yes, Juuzou seems to have very little moral feeling about ghouls. He doesn’t seem to think that they are particularly bad. Judging by what he says to Kurona and Nashiro, and later Big Madame, it seems that he feels that ghouls and humans are about the same, but that his job is to eliminate ghouls. Perhaps Juuzou, like Kaneki, will serve as a “bridge” to this new world…
Of course, I’m afraid to assume that positive results will come from his participation in this raid. I’m very concerned that Juuzou’s unbelievable luck will run out before the end of this manga, and that terrifies me. But lets just assume…..let’s just assume that he and Kaneki will both serve as “bridge” characters between these two worlds…..
No, thank you for the continuous top quality Juuzou content.
I think at this point, I’ve seen speculation that almost every character might secretly come from the Garden, including those we know canonically did not come from the Garden, and you know what? I don’t trust Ishida not to put me through this kind of pain again, so I can’t let myself deny the possibility. Everyone’s from the Garden and everyone’s a Washuu and everyone’s a half-ghoul and everyone’s the One-Eyed King. I’m not bitter, I’m just paranoid.
I want to say that he’s had enough bad luck for a lifetime, already, but this is Ishida we’re talking about, and the Tokyo Ghoul Universe, so really, there doesn’t seem to be a cap on that. But I would be really quite shocked if Suzuya doesn’t still turn out to have a big role to play. I am, unfortunately, less sure of the plot-security of his lovely squad. I hope, but hope means nothing to the cruel pen of Ishida Sui.
In my head, I bargain with Ishida like one might with a cruel god – Take Ui instead! Leave the Suzuya Squad and take Ui instead! “Foolish mortal” the Great Ishida bellows “Ui never had a chance.”
Now that Amon is also on the “ghoul” side of things, at least half way, I’d love to see signs that Suzuya was taking up that role as bridge between the worlds as well as potentially taking up the investigation of the CCG from the inside.
(The only other person I can really see taking up that mantle is Mado, but, it would be very, very personal with her. But then, that mantle is heavy enough to share. Plus, they had a fun dynamic in Tokyo Ghoul and I’d love to see what it looks like now after so much has changed.)
Okay, it’s “time to scream about possible symbolism” again.
If TG is set in 2015 right now,so it’s not leap year yet in the story, then Furuta and Kaneki are maybe both born in 1992 (x). Kaneki will turn 23 soon and Arima will turn 33 then. So Arima is 10 years older than Kaneki which means he’s born in 1982.
Remember this post here (x) and what I said about Furuta and Arima and the tarot card the moon?…It fits even more now if Arima is born in 1982 because then he would be really born in the year of the dog.
It’s either just a coincidence or Arima (dog; moon in his name (x)) & Furuta (crayfish; sun in his name (x)) are really related to the moon stage (which shows a dog, a crayfish, the sun and the moon together (x)) in the Fool’s journey :’).
okay so I’ve seen the post as well, and I’m just gonna list what I know since people are battling over Shuu, Nishiki, and a few other characters as well
Here’s a wonderful reference by the way of not only the ages in TG but also the time skips and manga plot (Wang’s in the process of editing atm but it’s a very good reference)
ANYWAYS
Currently in :re, the year is 2015. No, it is not 2016 as I’ve also seen argued, and here is why:
Kaneki was born in 1992, Year of the Monkey
Haise was introduced at age 22, then it was Auction Arc, 6 month time skip into April 2015, Lunar Arc, 6 month time skip to ~November 2015
(Keep in mind that Haise is theoretically a few months older than Kaneki, so Haise turned 23 back when he was promoted to First Class, while Kaneki remained 22)
So…
2015-1992=23 years old
Now we have a base to work with. So the list below is by the end of 2015 in :re at 11:59 PM, when everybody has officially turned a year older and there aren’t any month imbalances to mess up a lot of math:
~43 – Iwao Kuroiwa – ~1972
~41 – Shinohara Yukinori – ~1974
The above two ages are kinda approximate ages since we don’t have their birthdays
33 – Fura Taishi – August 1, 1982 (Dog)
33 – Arima Kishou – December 20, 1982 (Dog)
32 or 31 – Hirako Take – May 14, 1983 or 1984 (Pig or Rat)
There were some problems with Hirako’s age back in TG. He could be 32 right now since :re had him introduced as 31, but the TG timeline is a bit messy concerning Hirako, and his age was all over the place. It’s a safe bet to say he’s probably 32 by the end of 2015
31 or 30 – Washuu Matsuri – 1984 or 1985 (Rat or Ox)
When Matsuri is introduced to :re, he was 29. The problem lies in the fact that he was introduced in October 2014. If Matsuri Washuu is a end of October-December baby, he would be 31 by the end of 2015. If he was born in any of the earlier months, then he is 30 by the end of 2015.
30 – Amon Koutarou – April 7,1985 (Ox)
28 – Gori Misato – April 8, 1987 (Rabbit)
28 – Ui Koori – October 1, 1987 (Rabbit)
28 or 27 – Eto Yoshimura – 1987 or 1988 (Rabbit or Dragon)
Eto states, before announcing to the Tree that she isn’t the king, that it had been 13 years since she first attacked the CCG, back when she was 14. The problem lies in the fact that she stated this in November. If she is a end of November-December baby, she is 28 by the end of 2015. If she was born in earlier months, then she is 27 by the end of 2015.
27 – Itou Kuramoto – November 11, 1988 (Dragon)
26 – Hori Chie – February 25, 1989 (Snake)
26 – Tsukiyama Shuu – March 3, 1989 (Snake)
Somebody is going to argue this, so let me explain in the simplest of terms. Kaneki is 18-19 as a first year at Kamii. Nishiki is 19-20 as a second year. A third year will be 20-21. Shuu is a fouth year at ages 21-22. Kaneki and Shuu have a 3 year age difference. By the end of 2015, Kaneki is 23. Therefore, Shuu is 26. He’s old. Deal with it.
Shuu had a crush on Touka when she was 14 (he was 18). 4 Year age gap -> Shuu is 26, Touka is 22. In :re she started out at age 21, but is currently 22 after the 6 month time skip after Lunar Arc. (Also keep in mind she was in her 3rd year of high school (ages 17-18) in TG, and that Japanese high school is a lot different then Western high school. It isn’t uncommon to have kids born in two different years in the same class (i.e. Urie and Saiko), also known as Yoriko and Touka’s case)
21 – Yoriko Kosaka – 1994 (Dog)
21 – Saiko Yonebayashi – September 4, 1994 (Dog)
21 – Takeomi Kuroiwa -September 6, 1994 (Dog)
21 – Hairu Ihei – September 29th, 1994 (Dog)
21- Tooru Mutsuki – December 14, 1994 (Dog)
20 – Urie Kuki – February 12, 1995 (Pig)
Saiko is the oldest Quinx even though she looks, like, 12. She turned 20 at the beginning of :re while Urie and Shirazu were only 19. Oldest to youngest quinx -> shortest to tallest
20 – Ginshi Shirazu – March 8, 1995 (Pig)
19 – Kanae von Rosewald or Karren Roswald – April 23, 1996 (Rat)
Forever miffed that Karren isn’t Karen. Poor lovely wheelbarrow
17 – Hinami Fueguchi – May 21, 1998 (Tiger)
(Sorry Hirako squad you guy’s aren’t included since all of you are ded)
Okay that’s it I’m gonna go make some tomato soup now because that took longer then it was supposed to
Just some thoughts on Souta and Furuta’s Trump Cards. With last chapter, the mystery of why Souta’s Trump Card was separate to the rest of the Clowns has been cleared up. We’d all guessed that Souta was working with V but I think it was still a little bit of a surprise (for me at least) that his loyalties to Pierrot was completely non-existent.
There’s the obvious clues that we’d all figured out were important:
Pierrot were depicted on the 8 of each suit
Souta/Furuta was an outsider in the Pierrot Trump Cards, being designated a 5
♥
(5 = V in Roman Numerals)
The background of both the 5
♥
card and Joker card also gave clues that his loyalties lay with V all along. Souta within the bird cage, Furuta’s with the birds- he is one of the birds in the ‘bird cage’ on the world that V and the CCG is keeping in check.
Despite this, he is clearly aware of this world order and actively helps maintain it.
But then there’s also something suspicious with Souta’s hands going on. The obvious one was his left hand making a V which combined with the bird cage showed his association with the V organisation. But the right hand is harder to make out but it’s too unnatural looking to be insignificant. I just have no idea in what way (if anyone has any ideas about this, please add on!)
One possibility is that it’s a C and with the G on his mask and some careful choices in shadowing, it creates “CCG” hinting that they were working together to maintain the ‘bird cage’ on the world.
C is also the Roman Numeral for 100, a number connected to the OEK from 100 years ago
the C and V together in Roman Numerals makes 105 which I have absolutely no idea what significance 105 would have but according to my friend Wikipedia, 105 is a triangular number
It could also be a U, meaning Souta is just trying to warn us of the dangers of UV rays and being sun smart. Slip, slop, slap kids.
Lastly, if Furuta was a part of V, and his 5
♥ cards represents that… does this mean the other 5′s are also a part of V? There’s one 5 in particular that is especially suspicious…. I’ll put it under the cut just in case you don’t want potential spoilers for that character
PLOT TWIST: Furuta is a part of so many organisations that he forgot he was the OEK himself. That’s why Eto was laughing so much while he was interrogating her.
Ok, so I’ve been thinking about the whole bred children or breeding children situation that has been revealed in this latest chapter of re and I have a idea about how they could be breeding these children.
First I’d like to talk a little bit about what we already know about ghoul biology. We know that natural born half-ghouls are a rarity that are technically born through the mating of a female human and a male ghoul. Now I’ve always been curious about the whole “if the mother is a ghoul, the mother’s body will mistake the child for food and reabsorb it” situation.
The solution I thought of about with the whole female ghoul x male human thing is Gestational Surrogacy with Embryo from both Intended Parents (GS/IP).I find it weird that we haven’t seen any female Washuu’s aside from Iyo whose married into the Washuu clan, we’ve only seen males from the clan which in turn means that if Furuta and (or) other children from the Sunlit Garden are genetically made (bred) then that means the males of the Washuu’s are possibly being forced by V to donate sperm and female ghouls could be forced to donate Ovum/Ova. The donated sperm would be used to fertilize the Ovum/Ova in a liquid in a laboratory. The fertilized egg/Zygote is cultured for 2-6 days in a growth medium and is then implanted in the female humans uterus, with the intention of establishing a successful half-human/half-ghoul pregnancy.
Well anyway this is just my thoughts/theory about that whole “bred children” or “breeding children” bombshell Ishida dropped on us this past chapter. I’m not sure if someone else has made a post about something like this if so just disregard this, but if not I’d like to hear your thoughts about this.
Remember how Furuta’s name is derived from his birthday? (using old-mcdonald’s comment here to explain)
旧多 -> 1日多い 二福 -> ni (2) fu (2) ku (9) -> 2/29
No wonder Furuta hates his birthday…the people who named him couldn’t even bother to give Furuta a proper last name and used the numbers in his birthdate instead T^T
If they didn’t think anything about him when Furuta was born, then why should he?
Furuta is related to the Washuu though. If Furuta is Yoshitoki’s natural son, then his last name should be Washuu, not Furuta. But that isn’t the case. Furuta Nimura’s name literally means “one extra day, two two nine”, the “one extra day” referring to the leap year. It’s as impersonal as you can get, giving a number as a person’s name like a prisoner or experimental subject…
Relatable FE Quote or Something 
