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Communism requires violence and aggression.
Capitalism does not.
It’s that simple.
Dude I’m about 2 blow ur mind
Google “jail”
“military expenditure” might be a good one also
here’s the real kicker
google “war”
war has been there before capitalism.
and now wars are fought over resources
wars are also fought because they’re more profitable than peace
Of course capitalism requires violence you’re just used to pretending that that violence is natural or justified.
Capitalism requires allowing people to literally die when we have the means to save their life because they don’t have enough money. How is that anything but violent?
With communism, people are not going to have enough money. They just aren’t. We’ve seen that. With capitalism, people have the opportunity to build what they need. War is not unique to capitalism, and police who abuse their authority are a very small percentage of the police force. We only perceive it to be more because it’s the media’s job to pick out cases where things went wrong or people did bad things. We don’t hear about the tons and tons of cases and situations where police were involved and where nothing went wrong, because there’s nothing to report on.
what, and people have enough money in capitalism? a sixth of the US population goes hungry each night. the obective of capitalism was never and will never be to make everyone rich. then there’s no one to enslave and exploit.
There is always going to be a lower class, a group that won’t have enough. It sucks, it honest to goodness does, but we can’t get around that fact. With communism, people are stuck and don’t have as much opportunity to change their position.
so what is this incorrect bullshit you’re spewing about the people having the “opportunity” when you then admit that, wait a second, they don’t?
With communism, it is my understanding that the government owns everything and divides out resources to the people without regard the jobs they work. People cannot change what resources or income they receive based off of how much they work. Under capitalism, it is possible to change your position by changing how often you work, where you work, et cetera.
but you literally just said it’s not possible for everyone. what sort of doublethink is required to think capitalism is a fair system but also fully admit that not everyone can have the best (or even a good) quality of life under it?
Capitalism is not a perfect system. There is no perfect system. All I’m saying is that instead of everyone being one class (typically poor, going by communist societies as we’ve seen in history), there are separate classes, where most people live in relative comfort, and where class is more determined by the people themselves and less by the government.
are you dumb, or do you just choose to make up facts? half the world’s population lives in poverty. there are literally zero ways you can try to push this “most people live in relative comfort” bullshit when most people barely survive under capitalism.
When I wrote that, I was thinking mostly of the US as an example.
@cisnowflake, any thoughts?
capitalism is global. you can’t separate one country and try to use that as an example of “good capitalism”, because first world countries benefit from strife in the third world. the US is no different.
Tell me, what’s the big advantage to communism?
the workers control the means of production
Can you elaborate?
no. go read the communist manifesto if you want at least a basic understanding of what communism is. it’s 48 pages.
@avoiceisgraceandgreed when workers own the means of production, the majority of the money isn’t going to CEOs and presidents that do no actual labor to create or distribute the product from one way to another (as they are in a capitalist society). Those tasks are done by the actual workers in factories, deliveries, etc. There isn’t poverty because there’s not enough money or it’s inevitable for people to be impoverished, it’s because an unnecessarily large amount is going to a class of people that don’t actually matter. Now I don’t personally believe in state ownership over the means of production, but I do believe in the workers having full control over it and (assuming everybody in society works) everyone gets to decide where things go and who they go to. There’s no such thing as scarcity, poverty, over population, or over production/consumption. Those are all created because things are produced purely for the profit of the unnecessary class instead of the wellbeing of society. Capitalism sucks, encourages selfishness, makes people afraid of the world and manipulates people into thinking that the ruling class is a necessary power. It’s not. You’re being tricked into believing that people need to suffer in order for others to live comfortable. They don’t. Capitalism requires exploitation, so you’re not wrong about poverty being necessary to uphold our system. But it’s not inevitable, the goal is to stop giving a fuck about money and to care about actual human lives.
So are you with us or against us? Because there’s people dying of war, famine, and cold, and we’re trying to end that, so either get on our side or get out of the way.
I’d also like to add that capitalism literally cannot exist without some form of imperialism; First World countries (“
where most people live in relative comfort“) MUST control and siphon resources from Third World in order to maintain this comfort that only certain classes in First World countries can access.
If you’ve read any kind of world history, you will understand why imperialism is horrible and is the reason for basically all modern conflicts today.
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